Kevin Love is slightly overrated (stat padder) and shouldn't be called the best PF over Dirk or Aldridge?

Question

I know when someone goes against whatever the consensus is, people get crazy so before you go nuts, just read what i'm seeing with an objective mind. Before you say anything, keep in mind earlier in the season I had Love as the best PF and here is proof of that
http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Ah2ZauEkSMlqI3ZXay_vHWHh5gt.;_ylv=3?qid=20131116071955AAUh9CC

The list that had Love at #4 and Dirk at #10 was my list.

Now with the argument, yeah I use to think Love was the best PF earlier this season but i'm not being fooled by the stats anymore. The more I watch him, the more I realize he's a stat padder compared to an IMPACT player like Dirk. In 2012, when people were saying Love was the best PF due to stats, Dirk had a higher plus/minus rating that year showing his team suffers more when he leaves the floor. Also Dirk missed 29 games last season because of his surgery, and yet still led Dallas to an even record (41-41) indicating if he played all games Dallas would be a 6th seed last year. Love this season has a better supporting cast than what Dirk had last season, yet the Wolves have a losing record. People came into this season saying the Wolves had more talent than Dallas so the "Love has no help" excuse doesn't work anymore. He has Pekovic (top 10 center), Brewer, Martin (top 10 scorer), and Rubio (top 5 passer). If Love averages 24 and 14 his team should NOT have a losing record with the help he has. To me this indicates his impact doesn't equate to the kind of stats he puts up. Last season the Mavericks were in the bottom 5 in turnovers when Dirk was hurt and when he came back they finished somewhere around the top 10. Nowitzki is a difference-maker and impact player, while Love is a stat padder.

Aldridge has the complete package at the PF spot. He's a better defender than Love (so is Dirk), Aldridge has a very good low post game with a multitude of moves in the post, has an awesome mid range jumper and can pass and rebound well. Plus both Aldridge and Dirk are more efficient than Love (Dirk is more efficient across the board fg%, 3pt%, ft%, true shooting %).

Dirk: 49%fg, 40%3pt, 93%ft
Love: 44%fg, 35%3pt, 81%ft

Love just takes more shots and plays more minutes but he's not as polished on offense and Dirk and it's questionable whether he is more polished on offense than Aldridge overall outside of 3 pointers. All of these guys have a similar amount of talent around them yet Love is the only one with a losing record? Love is a stat padder, while Dirk and Aldridge are players who get less stats but have more IMPACT. My observations.

Answer 1

I've never said Love was the best PF.



Strong Points: One of the best rebounders the game has seen in awhile, has good range and a soft touch for a guy of his size. This season he has also showcased his passing skills.



Weak Points: His scoring is the most overrated part of his game. His shot selection is terrible for a big man, and that's part of the reason why his FG% is always low. Injury prone and no big game experience (KG led a bunch of scrubs to the playoffs every season).



Best PF? No, clear evidence of who is the best PF. Just like the PG position in the NBA, it's debatable.

Answer 2

Well if you notice, when you hear some analysts like Barkley, and Shaq talk, they seem to be so hell-bent on mentioning the importance of player's stats, and how dominant they are, that I think they tend to forget, or completely overlook other things. And you can be sure that that has an impact on public perception. But to be fair, a lot of people do. Stats aren't always overrated, but in Love's case, I think they definitely are. So I agree with you. You're completely right about Love having a better supporting cast than Dirk. Look at how they play against Dallas for example. So many options on the perimeter, in the post, they're difficult to contain. There's no reason with the talent on that team, If Love is truly the best PF in the game, that they shouldn't be able to contend for home court in the first round. Maybe that's ambitious, but I don't think so to be honest.

And who do you think will finish above each other in the standings? Twolves, or Mavs? I think we have an idea. As for Aldridge, I think his team also has more talent than the Mavs, but he's been able to have a more impact in terms of winning. He's also been the major force to take a team to the playoffs before, and Love has yet to do that. So I think Aldridge is ahead of Love.



Love is a great player, and for the rest of their careers, I imagine he will rarely not put up better numbers than Dirk. Probably even Aldridge for that matter. He'll always be racking up the stats and all star appearances. If it were me though, I'd still rather have Dirk over Love, and I would rather have Aldridge over Love in the future. Aldridge at least has developed go to moves. Love has yet to do that on a consistent basis.



I would take Dirk and Aldridge over Love.

Answer 3

The NBA should have a most underrated player of the year award. That would be one way underrated players could possibly get more attention they deserve. LaMarcus Aldridge is still so underrated. He doesn't miss from mid range. Can average 20-10 numbers. Is a solid defender in the low post. And he's arguably the most unstoppable player in the post. I see what you're saying. Kevin Love fills the stat sheet, but Lamarcus Aldridge is a guy you can throw the ball into late in games and he can command a double team.

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Answer 5

I have been saying for a while Love is a stat padder who doesn't impact his team's win loss total. I believe the year Love averaged 26 and 13, the Wolves were 21-20 with Rubio and 5-20 without him. It was Rubio who was the driving force on that team. And even though Love also missed games that year, they were much worse without RUbio than without Love. Love is basically a 3 point shooting big man who can rebound extremely well and now has added long outlet passes to his reportoire. Like James Harden, he can score efficiently when he is getting to the line a lot but he does not shoot well inside the arc and outside the paint. Most of his non three FGs are layups of of offensive putbacks or short bunnies near the rim. He was playing like the best PF in the game maybe the first 2 weeks of the season but he has tailed off from when he was averaging 27, 14 and 5.



And look at this. According to his shot chart on nba.com he is shooting 20/68 which is 29 percent inside the arc and outside the paint. http://stats.nba.com/playerShotchart.html?PlayerID=201567&zone-mode=basic



Blake Griffin who everyone says can only dunk is shooting 40/102 which is 39 percent inside the arc and outside the paint. http://stats.nba.com/playerShotchart.html?PlayerID=201933&zone-mode=basic





Love still hasn't mastered a basic mid range game yet. Id say Aldridge is the opposite. He relies too much on his mid range game which is stellar but he can score more and should score more in the paint. But at least his game is diversified.



Dirk has all these guys beat even at his old age, he is scoring from each location on the floor. Look at his shot chart. Its green everywhere except the corner 3. And even though he takes 80% of his shots outside the paint you can see when he does take shots in the paint he still scores at an effective rate above the league average. http://stats.nba.com/playerShotchart.html?PlayerID=1717&zone-mode=basic&display-mode=performance

Answer 6

I wasn't of those guys who called love the best PF. They need to judge him by his play, not his NBA 2k14 rating. To me even Blake Griffin is better than Kevin Love. I know Love has more moves but Girffin is way more effective. But Dirks not better than Love. He's too old. He's done. Do you see Kobe scoring 50 point games anymore? My point is all good things have to come to an end. Out of your prime

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Answer 8

I disagree with you. I think K-Love is better than both those guys and Dirk isn't close. I think the majority of NBA GMs would disagree with you as well.

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Answer 10

I think so, yes. Dirk and Aldridge are more talented

Answer 11

Alrdige is better than love cuz love kepp shootung 3s

Answer 12

Blake Griffin is better than all of those guys

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